the 1992 race when george bush was asked a question in one of these town hall debates how does the deficit and debt affect you it tripped him up a little bit. there's that personal interaction bit which is part of politics. that can be very unpredictable. we'll see how these two candidates deal with regular people when they have to talk to them face to face. >> what are we seeing at the state level. we saw romney get a bit of a bounce at the national level but ultimately the electoral college will make the choice here in this election. >> we're seeing the same kind of tightening in the battleground state polls we've seen in the national polls but it's happening in different states in different ways. governor romney is seeing some great improvement, things are going well for him in state polls and florida and colorado but not so much in virginia. tightening in ohio but not as much as colorado and florida. so, individual states are starting to align with candidates a little bit more and we'll have to see how that plays out. . >> given that movement how critical is this debate for the preside